The materials are kind of rough to work with. KERMAN: So the skills of the prisoners are much better. KERMAN: As it turns out, the food in the chow hall is pretty bad. Which I did not think was the thing that happened in prison. SAGAL: I was actually amazed to read this in the book - that all this cooking went on. KERMAN: They were very interested in the cheesecake recipe, actually, at the men's facility. SAGAL: Do you ever teach them any of your famous prison recipes? KERMAN: I do that at the Ohio State Reformatory for Women (ph), which is right smack dab in the middle of the state, and then at the Marion Correctional Institution for men. I teach a class in which students come in and write true stories from their own life - essentially memoir writing class. KERMAN: I teach a true story writing class. SAGAL: So you're back in prison although, now you are doing it as an instructor.

For sure - and all the people - all the wonderful people who make it. And the show takes the book, puts it in a blender and puts a lot of other ingredients in that. But they took some liberties with the TV series, shall we say.

SAGAL: And so we should say that the book obviously is a memoir. SAGAL: You ended up pleading guilty to charges of money laundering and went off to Danbury state prison. SAGAL: And to make a long and ultimately profitable story short. KERMAN: Many years later, the thunderous - it was actually a doorbell, but. But then, some years later, there was a knock on your door. And then you extricated yourself from that relationship and that life. KERMAN: I have no claims of innocence on this. SAGAL: And, just to be clear, you knew this was not, like, legit. KERMAN: She asked me to carry a bag of money from Chicago to Brussels. And you had a friend who asked you to do this errand of bringing some money, which was ill-gotten. You were a young woman living, as we say, fancy free. SAGAL: And I feel - I mean, I of course believe that everybody knows your story but maybe not, so let's go through it briefly. And yeah, I've been living here in Ohio for almost five years. By the way, is it all right that we tell people that you're here in Ohio? Are you still on the run? I mean, I don't know what your status is.

She now spends more time in prison here in Ohio teaching writing to inmates. But you know all that because she wrote a book about her experience called 'Orange Is The New Black,' which was adapted into the hit Netflix series. She ended up serving a year in a women's prison. Piper Kerman was a happy-go-lucky young woman when she just happened to happily go to Europe with some drug money and got unlucky. And now the game where we ask people who've been through a lot to go through something else.

Orange Is the New Black by Piper Kerman